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    not true. as a matter of fact creating a black upper class was a key strategy to break the direction and unity of the civil rights movement.

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      That could apply to individuals, like you said, but you can’t apply it broadly like you can apply privileges to white men.

      Furthermore, they’re doing the same thing today so that literally hasn’t even changed.

      But defeating the civil rights movement was more about killing off the leaders.

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        well yeah and your taking the 60’s and its not like it would be better to be black in the 50’s. What im trying to say is things basically improved until we started periodically regressing in the 80’s and beyond. It was like two steps forward one step back and became one step forward two steps back and you can’t broadly apply it to white men either but im not talking about people im talking about the time periods and living in one to the other. If you go back to the OP its about getting criticized by the older generation and responding with their own failings. Which existed. I mean the boomer claim to fame is basically the hippie erra. yuppie and beyond was not great but the hippie era was a direct result of the draft. There were some earnest individuals trying to stop pollution and improve human rights but there was also some who just did not want to get killed and enjoyed the drugs.

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          Boomers were alive in the 50s and 60s.

          To be fair, a lot of them came into maturity later in the 70s and 80s, but it’s an age range of like 20 years.

          Generations are bullshit ttbh

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            they even came of age in the 60’s for the older half. But again this was a period of improvement. civil rights got better in this time and much of it was do to boomers buat again the draft was a big reason for the hippie era. EDITED - just wanted to say generations are not complete bullshit. its like stereotypes. there is truth to them but not every individual will be like that.

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              Okay, but my point, that Black boomers didn’t have it easy, is still true.

              Also generations are bullshit - they were made up by advertisers! They’re totally arbitrary.

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                many people don’t have have it easy now, including black people. Hippie was a thing, yuppie was a thing, reagan democrats were a thing, Xers not trying in the system was a thing. tic toc is a thing. these were popular among certain groups of people at certain times and define generations. there is no hard or soft cutoff is true and its all approximation and class is far more defining than anything else no matter where you feel (if you actually realize the class your in). Its not completely arbitrary though

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                  It’s completely arbitrary, especially towards the edges of the time period. A boomer born 1946 had a wildly different life than a boomer born 1964, and a boomer born in 1964 has way more in common with a Gen Xer born in 1965.

                  Age cohorts are real, but “generations” are just arbitrary groupings.

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                    yeah I mentioned the same about with the hard/soft cutoffs but generations are as much a thing as nationalities. its a shared experience and trends and such. I laugh because I live near my high school and they have these boards on the fence with all these awards and accomplishments for teams and clubs over the years but there is a big gap for the 80’s and 90’s. My generation representing.