• sartalon@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Capitalism sucks for the same reason Communism sucks. For the same reason Libertarianism would REALLY fucking suck.

    Because people fucking suck.

    People will always abuse the power they have to keep/accrue more of it.

    Look at unions. Absolutely necessary for workers to unite and fight being taken advantage of by the companies who see them as nothing more than a number on a sheet. But then they can become the problem. (Look at the police unions for a perfect example.)

    Religion. It was a great tool that helped raise civilization from small tribes. It created ethical mores that cemented the value of the individual. Then the ones that became powerful went on to become institutions of manipulation and control

    There needs to be a balance and Communism is not it.

    The original commenter is right. This is a stupid meme.

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      Police unions - what could possibly go wrong when the members of the arm of state power collectivise to exercise their collective power. The example you’ve selected speaks volumes about your sincerity and/or familiarity with the subject.

      Similarly, unchecked power wielded by divine mandate that never had an interest in structural checks. We couldn’t possibly bake such checks into a more democratic, less hierarchical governmental and economic system.

      You want to shit on the concept of democracy while you’re at it because of the current state of the US, champ?

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        We’re heavily propagandized from birth. I realize that happens to greater or lesser degrees, around the world, but overworked, underpaid, tired, struggling for necessities, junk science with fake peer reviews and certain governments strongarming (to put it mildly) other governments. Cognitive dissonance waved away with professional terms. Overwhelm, in short. I only have the “luxury” of scratching the surface of my own enforced, propagandized ignorance because I’m chronically underemployed, my offspring is an adult, and other factors. Critical thinking isn’t rewarded, often punished, and it’s hard, especially when you’ve been deliberately misguided for decades, from birth.

        I can’t begin to imagine how exhausting it must be for you. I am grateful for your patience and gentleness with me as I struggle to remedy whatever is within my personal capacity to remedy, with the time and resources available to me, and would urge continued patience, for the few who may still be reached.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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          Thanks, and you are very much on point here. The worst part is that propaganda is so pervasive that most people don’t even recognize it. There’s an anchoring effect at play here as well where people naturally assume that the society they grew up in is the natural default. Any deviation from that is seen as being extreme as a result.

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            You’re welcome? I haven’t done anything but share a limited perspective, and I’m happy you appreciated it.

            There’s an anchoring effect at play here as well where people naturally assume that the society they grew up in is the natural default. Any deviation from that is seen as being extreme as a result.

            That even happens from household to household, in the same neighborhood.

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              For sure, people internalize the dominant narrative and then everybody just repeats it to each other without really thinking about it. At the end of the day, most people want to fit in and they subconsciously adjust their views to match those of others around them.

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      Capitalism sucks for the same reason Communism sucks. For the same reason Libertarianism would REALLY fucking suck.

      Because people fucking suck.

      People will always abuse the power they have to keep/accrue more of it.

      What do you know about the political structures Communists propose? Communists advocate for recall elections, councils of worker units, and delegates selected from among workers.

      Look at unions. Absolutely necessary for workers to unite and fight being taken advantage of by the companies who see them as nothing more than a number on a sheet. But then they can become the problem. (Look at the police unions for a perfect example.)

      Shocker, a good structure can be used for the wrong thing if it protects the soldiers of Capitalism against the rest of the workers.

      There needs to be a balance and Communism is not it.

      What’s good about balance? How would you even achieve a balance, and why would it be better than Communism? All of your points have been vibes.

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        All of my points have been vibes?

        They were specific examples.

        Lol, you’re a fucking dumbass that will refuse to listen to any argument that might actually cast doubt on your fantasy.

        It’s called cognitive dissonance and makes you no better than a trumplican.

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      Capitalism sucks for the same reason Communism sucks […] There needs to be balance and Communism is not it.

      And Capitalism is? Aight.