• superkret@feddit.de
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    1 year ago

    I know this is hard to understand for a Russian bot, but Ukraine is a sovereign nation.
    They will start peace talks if and when they want to.
    Negotiations will not be between Washington and Moscow, and even if talks like this would take place (e.g. under a new Trump administration), Ukraine is free to ignore them.

    The only thing the west gets to decide is whether they keep sending weapons and how many.

    • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
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      1 year ago

      Yes Ukraine is free to ignore them. The western coalition funding Ukraine’s war effort is also free to stop doing so. I’m not saying this to express that I wish Ukraine to be pressured to settle, but instead to highlight that Ukraine is not a self-reliant actor in this conflict.

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      1 year ago

      Here, in the US, people have difficulty accepting that America doesn’t have direct influence on all other nations.

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      1 year ago

      Wasn’t Ukraine willing to have peace talks last year until our good pal Boris Johnson came in and wrecked it all?

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        I believe the peace talks fell apart once they discovered evidence of all the rape and murder committed by the russians.

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      1 year ago

      Do you know anything about Ukraine or what Zelensky campaigned on for his election campaign? Do you know what Ukranians want? Are you Ukrainian?

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        1 year ago

        I know they consider themselves a free, self-governing nation who can negotiate their own terms.

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            1 year ago

            Russia seems to be completely reliant on others economically and militarily also, but that doesn’t seem to matter to you

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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              Russia has its own military industrial complex that it inherited from USSR that currently outproduces all of NATO, and Russian economy is currently growing according to the IMF. If you can’t understand the difference between that and Ukraine then what else is there to say.

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                1 year ago

                Russian MIC innovations (from the USSR days) was largely driven by Ukrainians, but that’s neither here nor there.

                What Russia has are deep stores. They cannot produce new aircraft without importing parts from the west. Not fixed or rotary. They are ramping up production of missiles, but so is Ukraine.

                Russia cannot even produce ball bearings. They aren’t producing new APCs, BMPs or MBTs. They are importing ammo from North Korea ffs. And seeing how badly their equipment has performed, I expect to see their weapons exports collapse. Their vaunted “Armata” turned out to completely suck.

                As for the economy, it is being artificially propped up by depleting foreign reserves. They are currently over-borrowing yuan to attempt to correct. And you really have to be a complete idiot to believe any official Russian data.

                Russia is holding on for dear life in the hope that Trump wins the elections.

                It’s almost like we live on different planets.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      I know it’s hard for a NAFO bot to understand, but Ukraine lost its sovereignty when US overthrew the democratically elected government in a violent coup.