• ZeroOne@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    Lack of user-friendlylinesss ? What ? How much more user-friendly can we get ?

    Most things are point & click

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      5 hours ago

      Most isn’t good enough, it has to be better than Windows. People will pay money to deal with the devil they know rather than learning something new.

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      4 hours ago

      Most things until anything goes wrong, and then you’re out on your ass on the grub recovery screen

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      Is this a joke? The main way most Linux users install software is still via the command line.

      On Windows the command line is an exceptional thing you sometimes have to use for troubleshooting. On Linux it’s the default way everything is done.

      For example how do you stop a service on Linux? The top answer just assumes command line.

      If I search for how to do it with a GUI I get a 5 year old post explaining that all the GUI attempts are dead.

      Now if I search for Windows, I get these instructions (from the AI but they sound like I remember it):

      open the Services console (search for “services” in the Start menu), right-click the service you want to stop, and select “Stop”.

      And the top SO question is someone asking specifically how to do it with the command line because the GUI way is so easy and obvious.

      That’s just one random example. Not even getting to hardware support, ease of installation, etc.

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        Most things are point & click & no one uses CLI in windows, it’s objectively inferior to linux

        Also “start & stop a service” ? Does that sound like something an average user deals with in windows ?

        Linux does need a control panel, I can admit that but let’s not pretend that Linux’s CLI is tough to learn. & the CLI is the most effective way of doing things in a pinch, when push comes to shove.

        If someone like Pewdiepie (he’s no tech-savvy guy) can use linux, thrn linux has gotten user-friendly enough, although linux can do better & more needs to be done

        • Ease of installation😅 now you’re straight up lying, linux is by far easier to install with a liveUSB
        • as for hardware, that’s upto the manufacturers to open up their systems

        Thanks for revealing your hatred for linux (I cannot wait for you to call me a linux-cultist, eventhough I admitted that linux can do better)

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          4 hours ago

          The bad cli thing is a 2000s view not a 2020s view. PowerShell is better than bash and windows terminal does everything I need both for local PowerShell stuff and remote bash stuff.

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            2 hours ago

            Who cares about Pewdiepie, the point is how much more “user-friendly” do you want, the excuses never end. If a stupid guy like pootiepie can handle linuxmint, then people are out of excuses

            Plus it’s actually the apps that we’ll need to focus on (& games)