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  • exi@feddit.detoPrivacy@lemmy.mlGoogle has a VPN service now
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    No VPN ever protects you from ad-tracking. Like literally none. That’s not what they are for. VPNs protect you from someone intercepting your traffic on the way to the websites you want to visit. It protects you from malicious public wifi or a malicious ISP. It does not anonymize you in any meaningful way.

    Addition just to explain: Google is tracking you on the website you visit, with the help of said website. So no matter whether you use a VPN or not, if you visit that website with or without a VPN, with all the fingerprinting that happens nowadays, they would probably just get a datapoint like “Oh, user X just moved from home internet to VPN” and that’s it.

    Like it literally does nearly nothing if you don’t ALSO do 100 other important things to anonymize yourself. A regular user has nearly no chance to stay anonymous the moment they use a regular browser and a VPN would not help them at all.


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    THIS IS A PAID SERVICE.

    Dude, they don’t only do ads. Google has a whole bunch of payed-for services that are never touched for ad-tracking. This is one of them. You are implying that Google Cloud would also use ad-tracking based on customer data, which is absurd.

    Please stop spreading this FUD. Just because the free services are payed for by ads does not mean that everything they do is.

    (edit: Paid, not Payed)


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    So your argument has nothing to do with the product itself and everything to do with “hurr Durr Google bad”.

    Which is fine, and a valid opinion, but has nothing to do with the product.

    I’m annoyed because 90% of the comments here imply or outright state that google will use this data for ads or other means, which has no basis in reality.


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    I’m super confused by the FUD spread in nearly every comment here.

    Pretty much every argument boils down to “we don’t trust google does what they say”, which is funny because I’d like to challenge anyone to provide evidence that google actually sells any of your data. They sell advertising slots that they promise will find the right people, but your data never leaves google. No advertiser gets to see it.

    This VPN service promises and has been independently audited to never log or analyze your traffic and even has built in provisions to anonymize your traffic within Google so they can’t reconstruct it.

    So apart from the questionable assumption that google is blatantly lying, what’s the argument here? Apart from maybe missing some popular VPN Features like country selection.

    Also this is for people that already pay for Google storage anyways, so I don’t see the problem for the intended target audience, it’s sticky an improvement in privacy for them and they get it for free. It sure as hell beats getting your traffic intercepted and ads injected into random http pages like some ISPs do.













  • But that’s even worse a comparison.

    First of all, the German recovery after WW2 is called “miracle of the Rhine” (or Wirtschaftswunder) for a reason. It WAS very impressive.

    At the end of WW2 Germany had a gdp of 160 billion dollars, a fully literate und educated population and a reduced but existing industrial base.

    Wikipedia: “When the People’s Republic of China was founded in 1949, more than 400 million of the country’s more than 500 million people were illiterate, and the illiteracy rate was about 80 percent, including over 95 percent in rural areas.”

    Per Capita GDP in china was 10% of that of post war Germany and china had no major industry to speak of and was mostly agrarian.

    I never said that other countries did not do impressive things, but I think there is merit to the claim that few improved the lives of the population as thoroughly and fast and at a scale as china did.


  • The Chinese government is responsible for the biggest and fastest uplift of people out of poverty ever seen in history.

    And they are also responsible for horrible horrible human rights violations against minorites and dissidents and they caused millions of needless deaths during the cultural revolution.

    The second fact however does not negate the first one because they did, in fact, pull almost their entire population out of poverty and into a modern industrialized economy.

    Please learn to make some space in your head for uncomfortable facts that cause conflicting emotions.

    OP was right, they are an extremely successful government with a surprisingly broad support within the population because most Chinese have living grandparents that where still farmers and had no industry at all. And they now live in modern cities with modern amenities. The transformation happened in two generations.