This is it for me. It seems like the whole site is an example of “the left can’t meme” with content populated by activists and sysadmins

Thus even though I also dislike Reddit I haven’t really been coming here either

The original DiWhy, at least for bread

Ok I’m home now my final thoughts are you’ve massively projected your world view upon the kind of person I actually am and some day you’ll learn that arguing on the Internet doesn’t solve anything!

I still don’t get why you think it’s apathetic or doesn’t offer anything. All I’m saying is you have to change with the world and the world isn’t the Internet

For real though, the subject of this thread is whether the Internet is or isn’t fun anymore it doesn’t mention or allude to enshittification and ignoring the topic of the thread by forcing that context is pretty mean. I know you don’t like capitalism but do you expect people to be receptive to what you have to say when you detail them and don’t care about what they have to say?

I’m not apathetic and don’t know where you got that impression friend!!!

I am your worst nightmare! I am grind!

Don’t go!

I’m on a plane rn 😬

I tried to make an optimistic point about the Internet not being the only interesting part of life and you unwarranted used it as a platform to complain about capitalism. Who’s a tryhard?

Sir this is a Wendy’s

Then why are you here?

Not really. Did you read the rest of my message?

Good observation. Your options are to reduce your reliance on such services or become increasingly mad at the world. I think the former is more attractive.

Optimization is the natural path of all things commercial. When the Internet was young it was more experimental as a whole and that was fun for people. Computing is still experimental but the experimentation isn’t obvious as it was back then. Unfortunately that means adventure finding you across your computer screen doesn’t happen as often. You either need to look for it around the fringes or look beyond the monitor.

Ubisoft style open world games. I honestly know I’m not built to enjoy them but I convinced myself to try and finish Horizon Zero Dawn and it was a huge mistake.

For a single player game, it vigorously wastes your time. The entire game is based around crafting but each time you need to gather something you need to come to a full stop, and spend a second watching the interact meter fill before you can gather each thing you see in the overworld.

The talent trees either contain things that are not meaningfully impactful on the core experience, ie tons of talents are slightly dressed up raw damage increases. Or they are things that are meaningful, but not surprising such as silent takedowns or bullet time. Overall it feels like Aloy was designed to be kind of fun and then they hamstrung her in a bunch of different ways to give a reason for the talent system to exist, and it takes the runtime of the whole game to undo this.

Many quests do not have anything to say about the lore or characterization of the world, whether it be for individual characters or the world overall.

Battle Royales: there are pros and cons to the format over traditional FPS. The real story here is that Fortnite in particular also frequently comes out with tons of fun and ridiculous weapons and items which is something that other companies don’t really do.

Ie: chrome that lets you turn into a fast moving blob, a katana with a charge dash range so big that it’s considered a mobility item, a handheld napalm cannon

Really? I guess you could consider the game’s visual flair to be predatory that way but I always felt that stuff was a joke because it doesn’t have microtransactions

I’m the CEO of ExxonMobil but thanks anyway

If a company ever puts ads in my group chats I will jump in a volcano