I find the yunohost mailserver pretty good ootb

Tried updating your bios?

Before the last word.

What’s a beginner to do

Well that’s just it; Endeavour is not a beginner distro. It’s not designed to be. Endeavour is Arch with a graphical installer and some modest quality of life improvements for users who are otherwise willing to trawl through the Arch wiki for answers. The welcome app really just seems to be there so that you don’t have to memorize all the commands or set up aliases, etc, if you don’t want to.

So when you ask “am I supposed to X,” the answer is that there really isn’t a set-in-stone workflow to accomplish anything on EOS or Arch; what you’re supposed to do is read the manual, so to speak, and decide for yourself how you want to go about things.

Unlike some other Arch based distros like BlendOS and Manjaro, Endeavour is still very much a DIY distro.

Don’t use GUI package managers, but here, have some GUI package managers.

What GUI package managers are you referring to? EOS doesn’t supply any.

AFAICT they made something more confusing than Arch, not less.

If I’m not mistaken, this is all stuff you should also be doing on Arch. The single difference is that EOS provides a button in their “Welcome” app that will helpfully run a command for you in a terminal for some of these tasks.

I’m very content. Stopped distro-hopping a few years ago and settled on EndeavourOS.

I used to run a digital press that did this. It also made the print quality worse.

I have never had a single landlord where this isn’t the case, except in instances where they are too cheap to even hire professionals to do things that they don’t have the skill to do, and they get their dipshit son to “fix” the sink that fell clean out of the kitchen counter with a lumpy bead of clear silicone and a 1’ piece of 2x4 wedged underneath.

With Yunohost being a thing, I’m down to nothing.

Wow, that sounds cool!

To be fair, the ternary operator can get messy.

Why not try simple scripts at first? You could write a little script in Bash, JS, or Ruby to create folders or text files. Besides the very basic stuff I did on the high school robotics team, my first programming project was when I worked as a print broker and we invested in a digital press. I needed a program to calculate the cost of a print job, so I learned a little BASIC and wrote a program on my TI-98 to do it for me. It would ask a series of questions (eg - paper cost, single / double sided, color / black and white, how many imposed on an SRA3 sheet, etc) and spit out the cost of the job.

As for how you use the code, say you write a ruby script; to run it, you’d navigate to the script directory in the terminal and type ./scriptName.rb to run it. If you’re using a compiled language, you’d compile it (your lessons would cover how to do this) and then you’d run the resulting binary the same way.

There are lots of older KDE apps that could use some TLC.

I just use plasma panels these days

Neat

Can confirm

Also, the community around a distro makes a difference. I don’t think that the EndeavourOS community has quite the lofty expectations of its users that Arch users do, so getting help might be a bit more pleasant.

My understanding is that a good desktop environment experience also relies on distro maintainers packaging things in a timely manner, et cetera.

Rooibos, mint, and chamomile for sure.

I can see that too. For me, coming to GNU/Linux as a windows power user, with Gnome, I just felt so limited and unempowered. Switching to Plasma helped me feel in control of my machine.