We’re in quite the state up here. One of our biggest problems is that Conservatives rule in many provinces, another problem is leakage of American conservatism up north, and a third problem is our PM is deeply unpopular despite, and I am willing to defend this, being one of the best PM’s the country has had in my lifetime (40 years). It doesn’t matter that one could fill a book with the PM’s accomplishments, the guy has been tuned out by the population and honestly needs to retire. He has been around long enough to have accumulated enough ill will that he drags his party down, my party, and I hate saying it but I feel like he has to go before we end up with a conservative blowout and all the progress of the last decade is erased in just four years.

Horrible, just fucking disgusting and an entirely predictible outcome of the Trump/republican abortion bans.

This is how media language choice helps people like Ford. When it’s buck a beer, they say the Ford Government, when they’re closing a hospital, it’s Ontario.

We see this this in American media too.

Yes, but typical Canadians aren’t going to use ML to price their bids. At best, for most, it’s a qualitative assessment based on realtor input, and their own judgement.

My in laws were extremely concerned that Ont. Liberals were going to teach grade one students anal sex techniques because they “heard it at church”. They cared deeply about this. So sometimes it isn’t about not giving a shit, it’s about being an ignorant shit who can’t be bothered to find out if what you care about is true or not.

Pierre asking Trudeau to do a crime should be a bigger story than it is, Pierre asking Trudeau to put our information gathering operations at risk should be a bigger story than it is. Makes me sick to think that weasel could get elected on not much more than Liberal fatigue, and we will pay the cost as a society for it when the childcare funds dry up, green money heads to the oil fields, we adopt punishment based healthcare for those addicted or women, and he reintroduces Harpers sneaky style of voter suppression and court stacking.

Him and his brother used to just go to apartment complex and hand out gift cards and cash, so no surprise he still uses this tactic but with government money.

Scientists say climate change is caused by an increase in greenhouse gases in the Earth’s atmosphere.

No need for the “scientists say” CBC. It’s a fact.

He won’t get security clearance to even learn about traitors in his own party, let alone talk about foreign threats.

Ugh, now all I can afford is “not me” to install them. Not experts that’s for sure.

(this is not a joke, not really).

Insanity, especially considering trans people are more likely to be victims than perpetrators.

No, I have a lot of experience in liberal organizations and they are not, despite the memes, closer to conservatism than progressivism. It honestly makes me feel like most people on lemmy have never really worked with liberal groups.

The major differences between a liberal and a social democrat or progressive comes down largely to deciding when a market has failed and when to use government intervention, both Liberals and progressives are fine with intervention, only the threshold changea. We want the same things, mostly, but disagree on how to get them.

Conservatives, philosophical Conservatives anyway, won’t typically even consider such a thing, and often do not even want the same things as Liberals or progressives.

This both sides same stuff just hurts progressive causes, because it sours mushy people with little to no real philosophy on voting for liberal parties. Those people flip flop back to Conservatives when they get angry and we lose the progress we’ve made, as is about to happen in Canada.

I know that conflating Liberals and Conservatives is practically lemmys official pass time, but I have to point out they are not the same.

Conservatives only deal with what’s on the surface so everything past your first sentence will mean nothing to them.

Carrique: Police are getting killed and its the immigrants fault.

Reporter : Can we see the evidence of this?

Carrique:

Security: Sir you’re going to have to leave

I do not understand this describing Trudeau as do nothing. Name a file and it doesn’t take very long to come up with things he has done. New upper tax rate, lower income me tax for everyone else, turning Harper’s tax credits for the rich into direct benefits with progressive payouts to help the poor, 0% Federal student loan interest and very generous repayment timeframes, big investments in the EV transition and home heating, cannabis is legal now, 150 water boil advisories lifted, huge investments in affordable childcare brought regulated child are costs way down, I could go on and on and get more and specific but honestly, people are so worked up they don’t remember any of this or they reply with their pet grievance.

How quickly we as a country forget that these things can be rolled back.

I agree with almost all of this except the idea only the NDP trying to make things better. The Liberals have done a lot to benefit the working class. We’ve had income tax cuts, the inversion of the regressive child tax credit into the child benefit, and honestly a lot more that I won’t list for fear of turning this into something like a gish gallop.

Or filtering, paraphrasing and interpreting his rambling to the point that people watching at home think he is actually knowledgeable about these topics.

This is no different than he has been since he came down that escalator, this is how all his answers sound when they’re about things he is ignorant of. Have we forgotten “look having nuclear” or countless other examples?

I think you’re confusing social democracy with democratic socialism. The first is as you say, and has huge overlap with liberalism, left liberalism, and progressive liberalism.

The second is achieving socialism through democratic means, without the need to overthrow government as once was believed to be entirely nessecary.

But then again, terms do change context over time, and by place. So maybe I’m the one who is wrong.