And more bullshit “but no white people have been oppressed as well”.

And when did this happen to be black people oppressing white people, hmm?

I’m Finnish. We were under Swedish rule, then Russian rule. That wannabe gotcha there doesn’t make “whiteface” any more of a thing. You can’t come up with an example of anyone getting offended by it, yet thought to equate it to blackface.

Just like the idiotic “white lives matter” people.

My comment was in response to the question about people using <insert colour> face

It was about blackface, which you know very well. No-one has ever been offended by “whiteface”, because of what fucking happened in history.

You’re trying to equate these things. Like a person who would go to “white lives matters” protests and still convince yourself you’re not racist. That it’s “the same thing, we’re just making sure white people don’t get discriminated against”.

Hating yourself is pretty common, btw.

How do you enjoy those “white lives matter” protests?

I don’t know what video he meant but here’s one.

Critiquing every episode of Ancient Apocalypse (Hancock has no evidence) — channel Stefan Milo

I’m Finnish, but also live on the coast.

And my city, Turku, has these signs all over the place about where the sea level used to be, like just a few thousand years ago. And those signs are at the top of a hill, where there’s an observatory.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vartiovuori_Observatory

You’re like a bad text-bot based on some really shitty Reddit sub.

I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised to learn you’re a teenager.

Your lies about having studied international law at “law school” are beyond ridiculous.

The way you speak of international law shows you know about as much about it as a 3-year old playing kitchen does about actual cooking.

Here, again.

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule12

The 24th International Conference of the Red Cross in 1981 urged parties to armed conflicts in general “not to use methods and means of warfare that cannot be directed against specific military targets and whose effects cannot be limited”

Further evidence of the customary nature of the definition of indiscriminate attacks in both international and non-international armed conflicts can be found in the jurisprudence of the International Court of Justice and of the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia. In its advisory opinion in the Nuclear Weapons case, the International Court of Justice stated that the prohibition of weapons that are incapable of distinguishing between civilian and military targets constitutes an “intransgressible” principle of customary international law. This definition of indiscriminate attacks represents an implementation of the principle of distinction and of international humanitarian law in general. Rule 12(a) is an application of the prohibition on directing attacks against civilians (see Rule 1) and the prohibition on directing attacks against civilian objects (see Rule 7), which are applicable in both international and non-international armed conflicts. Rule 12(b) is also an application of the prohibition on directing attacks against civilians or against civilian objects (see Rules 1 and 7). The prohibition of weapons which are by nature indiscriminate (see Rule 71), which is applicable in both international and non-international armed conflicts, is based on the definition of indiscriminate attacks contained in Rule 12(b). Lastly, Rule 12© is based on the logical argument that means or methods of warfare whose effects cannot be limited as required by international humanitarian law should be prohibited.

Can bombs going off in market places and other civilian locations be limited in that way? NO.

Does Israel breaking the humanitarian laws they’ve agreed to as a member of the UN mean Israel just “gets abandoned”. Hmm… how does it work in your society when someone does a crime? Are they just… “abandoned”? Or is there perhaps some sort of a system that deals justice based on the severity of the crime? (Having to write this is exactly what I mean about how ridiculous it is of you to lie that you have any training in law, let alone “law school” :D)

https://theintercept.com/2024/09/19/israel-pager-walkie-talkie-attack-lebanon-war-crimes/

Israel keeps doing crimes against humanity and you keep defending them. Like a brownshirt from the 30’s. Eww.

Warcrimes are warcrimes.

Ukraine isn’t a bad nation for defending itself against Russia.

Israel is a garbage nation for the pathetic attacks they commit and the genocides they pull.

“I said AND COMPANY”

No you didn’t, and we’re on Lemmy, where it’s beyond simple to look at your edit history

For someone in the military you really don’t seem to understand how modern warfare works, at all

Or maybe you’re an arrogant child, speaking out of their ass?

I’ve actually had training on fighting urban warfare. Training which included international law that’s related.

Have you?

No. All you’ve done is suck the fat dick of Israeli propaganda. If you had the knowledge that I do, you’d cringe at pathetic these attempts at “rhetoric” are.

Israel is doing crimes against humanity.

it’s not like grenades or rockets were just launched at city streets

No, this was way less targeted. Israel had zero idea who would end up near the devices even in the completely imaginary scenario where their information is perfect and every pager goes to Hezbollah, as you won’t be able to know where the bombs are when you detonate them.

Cry more. No excuses for Israeli CRIMES.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/09/lebanon-establish-international-investigation-into-deadly-attacks-using-exploding-portable-devices/

Weird how international law experts agree with me — a person who received even rudimentary info on international law — and not with any of you pushing the “Israel did nothing wrong” side.

Isn’t that weird? Almost as if all you’ve got is propaganda and lies.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/9/18/do-lebanon-explosions-violate-the-laws-of-war

We got actual laws (which Israel has agreed to, as a member of the UN)

Oh and I’m not ignoring any your third-grade rhetoric because it’s “hard to answer”, but because I’m all out of accommodating children for the week. Seeing you being serious with your rhetoric, with that level of rhetoric? I can’t even describe it, really. I mean, do you know the feeling you get when you watch toddlers imitating adults, really earnestly? They’re all serious in the face, they don’t understand how cute and silly they’re being? That’s how I feel about your rhetoric. You don’t understand how simple and childish it is.

https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/statement-icc-prosecutor-karim-aa-khan-kc-applications-arrest-warrants-situation-state

98% of Gaza is still alive after one year of all this indiscriminate bombing and genocide.

Are you on crack?

Oh wait no, you’re smoking Israeli propaganda, even worse than being the worst of crack whores.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Israel–Hamas_war

As of 8 September 2024, over 42,000 people (40,972 Palestinian[1] and 1,478 Israeli[13]) have been reported as killed in the Israel–Hamas war, including 116 journalists according to the Committee to Protect Journalists (111 Palestinian, 2 Israeli and 3 Lebanese)[14], 134 journalists and media workers according to the International Federation of Journalists (127 Palestinian, 4 Israeli and 3 Lebanese)[15] and over 224 humanitarian aid workers, including 179 employees of UNRWA.[

Israel is a pos coward nation committing a genocide on defenseless women and children. I can’t imagine anything more despicable and pathetic.

But you already knew this, since you’ve studied international law in… “law school”. (:DDDD)

Maybe you’re right, and you think the west should abandon Israel.

Honestly, our basic school system informed us more of international laws than your “law school” apparently did you. :D Not how the UN works, my brainwashed friend.

Then you spam a bit more whataboutism to excuse genocide. “No you don’t understand, we have to genocide these people because they looked at us funny, so we’re allowed to break international law”

Cmon mister “I-read-international-law-in-law-school”

What was the name of your school?? :DDD

I don’t think you understands what the word means. Literally.

Which is weird, given how you’re definitely a grownup who’s been through “law school” to “learn like lots and lota of international law.”

Israel is breaking international law with their attacks.

This really isn’t up for interpretation, but you can’t accept it.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/09/lebanon-establish-international-investigation-into-deadly-attacks-using-exploding-portable-devices/

Sure you did, bubba, sure you did.

You’re not just random internet kid with a cringe username who gets Hezbollah and Hamas confused and kicks off a tantrum. Nope, youre definitely not that.

You’re an expert in international law!

You did just call me an antisemite. You implied it. I think you might have to look that word up as well, despite your extensive training in “law school”.

I’m holding Israel to international laws they’ve agreed on, as a member of the United Nations.

The the rest of your comment is more shitty whataboutism.

You’re talking out of your ass.

pagers marked for Hamas

I’m not the one “talking out of my ass” so bad I get Hamas and Hezbollah confused.

I linked the international law. This attack breaks those laws.

“as required”

Aha, hmm, and what exactly are those requirements? (I know you’ve no idea, but I’ll settle for you even looking them up and reading them even for trying to still defend Israel, because that’ll still mean you’ll at least have read them)

War isn’t war crimes.

Youre ignoring actual international law and think your 12th grade philosophy rhetoric is some fucking gotcha?

War isn’t war crimes. I shouldn’t have even engaged with this shitty whataboutism, but it’s so laughable this is honestly entertaining. “War is war”. Weirdly we’ve never had to resort to bombing civilians? The only thing you can manage to find is “you had a civil war and you got support from Germany (before having a war with them), thus you’re just as morally bad as anyone who voluntarily massacre children, like Israel.”

We weren’t allies with Germany. You think that can’t be true, since you know WWII history. But what you don’t realise is you don’t understand that like warcrimes, “ally” also has a definition. We were not allies with Nazis, we we’re cobelligerents. Until we had to have a war with the fuckers cause they weren’t happy with us not being in thrall to them. The fuckers burned Lappland.

if someone managed to explode Netanyahu and co’s phones and kill him, you’d probably be cheering even if children died, because it would mean a genocidal war would be halted.

I don’t have anything better to do rn, so I might as well. This is absolutely moronic. No, I wouldn’t be fucking cheering at anyone’s death, and Netanyahu dying wouldn’t even realistically stop the genocides, because why the fuck would it? Do you think he’s the sole person pushing everyone else to do something they loathe? You haven’t heard the “we’re fighting human animals” from Israel’s defense minister?

War is allowed. War crimes are not. How is this hard for you to understand? And how is it you honestly still cling to your, “every country has blood on their hands” and comparing mother fucking Finland to Israel, trying to equate them because we fought for our independence literally more than a century ago, and did no war crimes in the process.

How is that even remotely comparable to sending off bombs to be exploded in population centers with children?

Like how fucked up do you have to be to even be able to think that?

“How much more targeted”

Than indiscriminate bomb attacks at population centers?

VERY much more targeted. This is no more accurate than looking at a phone book for addresses that people who may or may not have been associated with Hezbollah at some point and then bombing those apartment buildings, not caring who else lives there.

There are rules about war. Rules which you clearly have no idea of. No matter how despicable a terrorist organisation is, it doesn’t mean it’s morally okay for you to stoop to theirs fucking level.

Israel is a member of the UN, and has promised to obey these international laws as a part of the global community. If they want to say “fuck you we’re allowed to kill however many civilians we happen to fucking kill with whatever flimsy excuse we may have”, then soon Israel won’t be a respected member of the global community, but another shitty terrorist state that everyone despises.

Perhaps you didn’t read the entire passage?

“Which cannot be limited as required by international humanitarian law”

Or perhaps you don’t know what those requirements are, because you don’t care?

These can’t. They had no way of limiting or even knowing where and whom the bombs would be around when they exploded.

“No country is without sin” *mentions a civil war*

Wow, yeah, having struggled for our independence more than 100 years ago is what you’re going with with this whataboutism, when we’re discussing WAR CRIMES?

Wow what a great argument, definitely showed me my place, yeah. /S

Why didn’t I answer your garbage attempt at rhetoric? Because you’re ignoring actual international law to defend Israel’s despicable attack on civilians. Something my country has NEVER done.

Which country’s military? Because I’m more than willing to bet your country has killed innocents too, even if by accident

Finland. Go ahead and dig dirt. We have such a cruel and bloody history and we never do what we say or listen to laws. /S

I see you weren’t the reading comprehension guy in the military. But since you need it directly spelled out for your crayon eating ass to understand - yes, the Israeli government is committing genocide

You don’t seem to understand what reading comprehension is, nor understand the existence of people who absolutely refuse to admit to Israel’s warcrimes. Like the war crime they committed with this indiscriminate bombing, which can’t be limited as international law requires.

International law is international law. And Israel is breaking it.

Edit oh and I’m not **ex-**military until I’m 60. Also, I was the company’s quartermaster, which very much is a reading job for the most part.

You’re seriously saying “they deserve the ‘eye-for-an-eye’ treatment” while Israel is actively escalating the conflict?

I have never defended genociders

Oh okay. So where have I done that? In assuming that 3000 civilians who were harmed weren’t exclusively Hezbollah? Which would be an utterly ridiculous claim seeing how many literal children there are involved.

So… you’ve never defended genociders. Then let’s see if you will. Is Israel committing a genocide in Gaza?

You think only military personnel were killed in WW2?

I’ve actually been in the military and have had training on what is and isn’t legal to do in armed conflict. Have you?

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule12

Rule 12. Definition of Indiscriminate Attacks

Rule 12. Indiscriminate attacks are those: (a) which are not directed at a specific military objective;

(b) which employ a method or means of combat which cannot be directed at a specific military objective; or

© which employ a method or means of combat the effects of which cannot be limited as required by international humanitarian law; and consequently, in each such case, are of a nature to strike military objectives and civilians or civilian objects without distinction.

I think they’re implying this mostly hit Hezbollah members, not than none of the victims were innocent.

Based on… what exactly?

The clear implication is that “number of Hezbollah member > victims = no innocent victims.”

And then you instantly jump into defending genocide. Holy fucking shit I honestly can’t communicate with words how disgustingly pathetic I find that.

No, I’m not gonna engage with your whataboutism and start arguing with you about how “Hezbollah deserved this absolutely pathetic terrorist attack.”

“Brought it on himself brought it on himself”

You fuckers still haven’t realised that Hammurabi’s law makes the whole world blind, huh? That was almost 4000 years ago, ffs. Read a book, preferably a modern one and not some tome of propaganda from thousands of years ago.

You’re literally defending the death of a 9-year old girl. You have to be sick in the fucking head to do that. Honestly.

You’re genuinely pathetic enough to try and imply that none of the victims are innocent?

I loathe “people” like you.

Hey @[email protected], you were saying that “these were extremely surgical strikes, people in the vicinity weren’t harmed”?

Thousands of people injured, all guilty of something ofc, because Israel would never do an attack which might harm innocents. Right? /S