Ukraine is actively trying to battle their corruption, with this being a step towards that end, however small.
Meanwhile Russia is famously more corrupt than Ukraine, has been since long before Maidan, attempted to pervert Ukraine’s elections to install a corrupt leader under their control, and then invaded in an attempt to expropriate Ukrainian land and resources when that attempt failed.
If you’re going to try and call somebody out like that, you should do your homework.
The only times since 1998 (the first year of data for Ukraine) that Russia was deemed less corrupt than Ukraine were the stretches from 2000-2004 and 2011-2015.
Ukraine performed better than Russia 1998-1999, 2005-2008, 2010, and 2017-2023. They were a cumulative 20 points better on corruption than Russia over that time.
No, I’m talking about the 2004 elections. In case you’d forgotten, Russia was so upset about failing that they attempted to assassinate the rightful winner. When Yanukovych eventually gained power, he was so transparent about wanting to turn Ukraine into an authoritarian vassal state of Russia that parliament removed him and undid his efforts to convert the presidency into a dictatorship. And then he fled to Russia.
You did not. You hinted at a point without stating it directly.
Are you saying that this corruption charge is disingenuous and intended to redirect attention from other issues? Because if so you need to make that explicit and then support it with evidence. Otherwise it sounds like you’re parroting known disinformation.
Are you saying that this corruption charge is disingenuous
I have no idea how genuine this particular corruption charge is, but given how rife with corruption the country is, I’m inclined to believe it.
My point is that I think patsies are now being chosen to take the fall in lieu of the most powerful oligarchs and government functionaries, who are also corrupt.
Otherwise it sounds like you’re parroting known disinformation.
What disinformation does it sound like I’m parroting?
The war is failing on Ukraine’s end? Why do oil refineries and storage facilities explode deep in Russian territory on a weekly basis if Ukraine is losing?
Because 1) they’re losing territory more quickly now than ever, 2) they’re running out of people to kidnap off the streets and shove to the front lines, and 3) the US is about to leave them holding the bag[1][2]. Russia is the largest country in the world by a long shot and over 6,000 miles deep. All Ukraine can do is make pockmarks on its western edges.
Ukraine was famously corrupt before this war, before the Maidan coup, and before the Yanukovych administration.
And now that the war is failing, and the hunt is on for scapegoats, corruption allegations will fly.
Ukraine is actively trying to battle their corruption, with this being a step towards that end, however small.
Meanwhile Russia is famously more corrupt than Ukraine, has been since long before Maidan, attempted to pervert Ukraine’s elections to install a corrupt leader under their control, and then invaded in an attempt to expropriate Ukrainian land and resources when that attempt failed.
What point are you trying to make here?
That’s a lie.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index
2020-2023 - Russia is more corrupt
2012-2019 - more or less the same, sometimes Russia wins sometimes Ukraine
1995-2012 - Ukraine is more corrupt
Are you talking about 2010 elections?
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Ukrainian_presidential_election#International_observers
You’re either lying again, or using the typical western-liberal “it’s only democracy if our candidate winds” (or, well, both).
Nice disinformation bro
If you’re going to try and call somebody out like that, you should do your homework.
The only times since 1998 (the first year of data for Ukraine) that Russia was deemed less corrupt than Ukraine were the stretches from 2000-2004 and 2011-2015.
Ukraine performed better than Russia 1998-1999, 2005-2008, 2010, and 2017-2023. They were a cumulative 20 points better on corruption than Russia over that time.
No, I’m talking about the 2004 elections. In case you’d forgotten, Russia was so upset about failing that they attempted to assassinate the rightful winner. When Yanukovych eventually gained power, he was so transparent about wanting to turn Ukraine into an authoritarian vassal state of Russia that parliament removed him and undid his efforts to convert the presidency into a dictatorship. And then he fled to Russia.
I think I made my point?
You did not. You hinted at a point without stating it directly.
Are you saying that this corruption charge is disingenuous and intended to redirect attention from other issues? Because if so you need to make that explicit and then support it with evidence. Otherwise it sounds like you’re parroting known disinformation.
I have no idea how genuine this particular corruption charge is, but given how rife with corruption the country is, I’m inclined to believe it.
My point is that I think patsies are now being chosen to take the fall in lieu of the most powerful oligarchs and government functionaries, who are also corrupt.
What disinformation does it sound like I’m parroting?
The war is failing on Ukraine’s end? Why do oil refineries and storage facilities explode deep in Russian territory on a weekly basis if Ukraine is losing?
Because 1) they’re losing territory more quickly now than ever, 2) they’re running out of people to kidnap off the streets and shove to the front lines, and 3) the US is about to leave them holding the bag[1][2]. Russia is the largest country in the world by a long shot and over 6,000 miles deep. All Ukraine can do is make pockmarks on its western edges.