Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Kyiv would like to end the war with Russia next year through “diplomatic means” as both countries prepare for President-elect Donald Trump’s return to the White House.

In an interview with the Ukrainian media outlet Suspilne, Zelenskyy said he is certain that the war will end “sooner” than it otherwise would have once Mr. Trump becomes president.

The prospect of Trump returning to power in the United States next year has raised questions about the future of the conflict, as the Republican has been critical of U.S. military aid to Kyiv.

Zelenskyy said that Ukraine “must do everything so that this war ends next year, ends through diplomatic means.”

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    I’m not sure who “you people” are, but at no point did I claim to know what’s best, but I sure as fuck know, from knowing history and paying attention, that tyranny doesn’t go away by asking nicely. Never has, never will.

    So a better question would be wtf is with you claiming you know anything at all about global conflict or fascism? Its like you’re larping as a wilfully ignorant and overly confident centrist who is happy to lay others lives on the line and let war rage on as long as we aren’t too mean to a dictator. 🙄

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      So I don’t know how the Russian/Ukrainian war is going to go. I mean Trump is such a wild card it’s hard to say. But I want to point out that your comment:

      that tyranny doesn’t go away by asking nicely. Never has, never will.

      Is very wrong. The weirdest thing is you state if you’re paying attention. Well, if you’re paying any attention what so ever, you’ll see that tyranny regularly gets displaced by asking nicely. In fact, in recent history we have South Korea with a peaceful democratic transfer, Taiwan which also had a peaceful democratic transfer, Singapore and many others. And that’s just recent history. Let alone all the Kingdoms that were displaced by democracy in history such as the UK. Heck, the UK still has a monarch and yet run in a democracy because of how peaceful the transfer was. Thailand as well. I could go on, but I think you get the point. In fact one of the MOST COMMON ways to go from Monarchy/Dictatorship to democracy is a peaceful transfer. Obviously that doesn’t always happen, but it’s quite common to simply ask nicely.

      *Edit: Actually Ukraine ITSELF was a peaceful transfer from tyranny to democracy. That’s the REASON Putin is angry and jealous of them. I mean you don’t even have to look outside of the combatants to see a peaceful transfer. Which is gone now, but that doesn’t take away that it happened.

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        All I can say to this bizarre reply is that the whitewashed version of history (never mind current events, since some of those conflicts are still ongoing, violently, today) you were taught at school, or hear about in the msm isn’t the reality, and that none of those conflicts were fucking peaceful, or came to a conclusion because those in power just decided to give it up.

        Pick up a fucking book (or watch a video, or listen to a podcast, however you take information in, go and do that, but only if you can cope with challenging your bias, otherwise it becomes a completely pointless exercise)

        E: Like, honestly, do you seriously believe there is any point in talking to Putin? Do you think an open and proud totalitarian known for throwing his opponents out of windows is a trustworthy person who will have good faith and stay true to his word? Do you fucking hear yourself???

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            Ah yes, peaceful, if you erase the Gwang-ju Massacre and other atrocities committed by “The Butcher” Chun Doo-Hwan.

            The rights enjoyed by South Koreans were fought for with the blood of workers spilled by their own government and Capitalists. Don’t erase them.

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              Nice try but you don’t get to argue that a protest over 7 years ago and is unrelated caused the peaceful transfer.

              I mean you might as well argue that the blood of Americans were spilled for their freedoms in BLM, Kansas State Massacre, the Chicago fire. Oh wait, those protests massacres happened AFTER USA was a democracy. It’s almost like they’re not related to being a democracy or not and the June protests weren’t part of that massacre because it’s a 7 YEAR gap.

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                The Gwang-Ju protests were a pro-democracy protest against the dictator Chun Doo-Hwan. You have no idea what you’re talking about and are erasing the very real historical impact of the massacre.

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                  And those protests were like the American protests didn’t get anything done. It wasn’t until 7 years later when they simply asked nicely. If anything, you’re proving violence doesn’t work and the best option is to literally simply ask nicely.

                  Thus, my point about the violent protest being unrelated. It did NOT cause the regime change. I’m not talking about what it’s about, I’m talking about what actually switches the government.

                  I never said nations don’t have problem. My list of violent massacres in USA proves that. I’m saying violent protests does not lead to regime change as often as a peaceful transition. Your Korean argument proves that as the violent protest did nothing, vs the peaceful one.

                  *Edit: To be clear, if we study history we find peaceful regime change far more likely than violent ones. BUT people like YOU keep creating violent situations that do not help the situation. If people like YOU stop being violent, maybe we could work towards actually beneficial transitions.

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                    They had already asked peacefully, and were slaughtered for doing so. The change was a cumulative effort with deep contextual history, and didn’t happen in a vacuum.

                    You have *no idea" what you’re talking about.