I recently moved to California. Before i moved, people asked me “why are you moving there, its so bad?”. Now that I’m here, i understand it less. The state is beautiful. There is so much to do.

I know the cost of living is high, and people think the gun control laws are ridiculous (I actually think they are reasonable, for the most part). There is a guy I work with here that says “the policies are dumb” but can’t give me a solid answer on what is so bad about it.

So, what is it that California does (policy-wise) that people hate so much?

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    I live in Colorado and there’s a lot of California hate here. I don’t feel this way but I know some is directed at the real estate investors who have been buying up homes and making the Denver housing market even worse. During the pandemic so many people lost out on houses to cash deals so they started working with these shady companies that would front you a cash offer for a % of the sale, then you’d just get a loan.

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      I lived in Colorado for a few years in the mid 90s and I remember seeing a bumper sticker that said in big letters “GO BACK TO CALIFORNIA”and in smaller letters below it said “and take a Texan with you.” Always thought that was funny despite the explicit nativism. And they were mad for the reason you described: they didn’t like Californians driving up real estate prices (and Texans were also doing it to a lesser extent). I can understand where the resentment comes from, but I’m not fond of the hostility towards outsiders.

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        Nothing wrong with nativism. If you don’t like where you live change it. Don’t go somewhere else and try the same shit that made you hate where you were.

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          Sorry but it’s very uncommon for the people who are making a place into somewhere that the underprivileged hate to be the same people that are moving to other places.

          If you’ve got the power to drive up housing prices in the state that you currently live in, you’re not going to be in the group that’s moving across the country to have a shot at being successful.

          Of course when people can’t earn enough to be successful in CA and move to CO for a better life, the uncreased housing demand in CO is going to bring prices up a bit. But those people aren’t the ones who made CA so expensive. In fact, they’re actively making it less expensive by leaving the state.

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            They and their compatriots certainly did vote for the politicians that stopped the police doing any work. That’s what I was talking about.

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              Which CA ballot initiative are you talking about stops the police from doing their work?

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                  Are you mixed up? Prop 47 reduces jail time for nonviolent and non serious drug and property crimes.

                  Seems pretty disingenuous to represent that as preventing the police from doing their jobs. Unless you honestly think cops’ job is to maximize the amount of time that drug addicts spend in jail.

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                    It basically decriminalized theft under $950. The cops are not investigating misdemeanor thefts because it’s so rampant. And if they do they catch and release because the DAs don’t press charges.